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Skeffling Parish Council



For meeting to be held on 10th July 2007


 1.   Minutes of meetings held on 5th June 2007

 2.   Matters arising

 3.   Declaration of Interest  -  The Parish Councils (Model Code of Conduct) order 2001.  To record any declarations of interest by any Member in respect of items on this agenda.

 4.   Code of Conduct 2007

 5.   Notice Board

 6.   Correspondence

 7.   Public Speaking


Skeffling Parish Council



Minutes of Meeting held on 10th July 2007


Those present:  Cllr. M. Turnbull, Chairman

Cllr. P. Payne Vice-Chairman

Cllr. L. Payne

Cllr. S. Rollinson

Cllr. J. F. Robinson

Cllr. R. Newsam


Apologies:         Cllr. J. Sizer


Members of the public:  12


Minutes of meeting held on 5th June 2007


The minutes were accepted as an accurate account.

Proposed:   Cllr. M. Turnbull

Seconded:  Cllr. P. Payne

Vote: carried unanimously


Minutes of Emergency meeting held on 27th June


Proposed:   Cllr. M. Turnbull

Seconded:  Cllr. S. Rollinson

Vote:  carried unanimously


Matters Arising

There were no matters arising.


Declaration of Interest

There were no declarations of interest.


Code of Conduct 2007

This item will be put on the August agenda for a decision.


Speed Reactive Signs

A survey has been carried out for the feasibility of having a speed reactive sign in the village.  It will cost £1,300 plus the electricity cost of £38 per annum.  It would also depend on there being an electricity supply to the sign.  To do this would be an additional cost.  It was agreed that a letter be written to say we cannot afford the costs of the sign.  It is more than our precept.  It also needs to be pointed out that another 5 year contract is coming to Easington.  This will mean heavy traffic through the village to Easington.  Previous experience has shown us how hazardous this can be, especially when drivers ignore the current speed signs.

Proposed:   Cllr. M. Turnbull

Seconded:  Cllr. R. Newsam

Vote:  carried unanimously


Notice Board

Cllr. R. Newsam has looked into the price of a new notice board.  It was agreed that the size be 3' across and 2' down and made in hard wood.  These cost in the region of £450.  This is not free standing.  An aluminium notice board would cost approximately £350.  This will be discussed at the next meeting.


Area Forum Nomination

Cllr. P. Payne will be putting himself forward for this Committee again this year.


Planning Application - Mr. S. Gray (07/03155/PLF)

Mr. Gray wants to convert the old joiners shop into a dwelling and extend it with an application for a change of use.  Cllr. M. Turnbull felt that some adjustments should be made to the application and will ring Derek Ellis to discuss the matter and ask for his advice.  He will also ask for an extension to the time limit of 16th July.

Proposed:   Cllr. M. Turnbull

Seconded:  Cllr. P. Payne

Vote:  5 votes for,  1 abstention


Planning Application - Mr. W.H.Stothard (07/03741/PLF)

This application is similar to the one put before the Council in 2004.  Category B8 allows for storage and distribution use.  There seems to be no restriction on the items and materials which can be stored.  It was felt that the range of proposed use is far too wide.

The application was refused for the following reasons:


1.  With regard to increased traffic.  The road is not suitable for all vehicular use. The road is not big enough to cope, and access to the site is not suitable for large vehicles.  In addition, during harvest vehicles are using the road all the time.  There would be too much traffic to pass safely without damaging verges and kerbs.


2.  It is in a residential area with a children's playground adjacent to the site.


3. Section 10 refers to note 14, attached, on what cannot be stored.  There was no attachment.  We need more information on note 14.


4. The application contradicts itself.  It states on Certificate A Number 2 that none of the land to which the application relates is, or is part of, an agricultural holding.  Part 2 of the permission to develop land, number 5b states that the existing use is agricultural.


5. There is no sewerage system, only limited surface water running into a dyke.


6. In the letter from Hickling Gray Associates, they state that the site lies outside the development limit for the village as defined by the Holderness District Local Plan.  Therefore, in planning policy terms, it is considered to be located within the open countryside where new development would only be allowed in connection with agriculture, forestry or with conversion schemes.  The planning application is not for a conversion.


7. The letter from Hickling Gray Associates also states that the site is bounded on its southern side by a water course that may have once formed part of the former village moat.  The moat is not a 'former moat', it is, in fact, a functioning flood defence of the village.


Proposed:   Cllr. M. Turnbull

Seconded:  Cllr. R. Newsam

Vote:  carried unanimously



There have been several letters from ERYC regarding the flooding.  These letters contain information and telephone numbers for those affected and needing help.


Public Speaking

Mrs. Beadle asked  if  the  Council  have  a  contingency  plan  for  when 'the big one comes'. Cllr. Turnbull stated that the responsibility is with East Riding of Yorkshire Council, and not the Parish Council.  The Parish Council does not have the resources, facilities or manpower to do the work of East Riding of Yorkshire Council.


Mr. Dosdale announced that British Gas will be in Skeffling on Wednesday and Thursday of this week to give any help needed.  There will be skips for anything to be thrown away and heaters for those who have been flooded.  They will also be cleaning gullies.


With regard to the flooding Mr. Dosdale said that Cllr. M. Turnbull had turned down the  offer  of pumps.  Cllr. M. Turnbull replied that he had been to the address Mr. Dosdale gave him and they did not have any pumps.  Mr. Dosdale insisted there were pumps there and Cllr. M. Turnbull had said  they  weren't  needed.   This was  refuted  by Cllr. M. Turnbull,  and  Mr. Dosdale asked Cllr. M. Turnbull if he was calling him a liar.


Mr. Dosdale asked why the manhole wasn't marked after someone had fallen down it.


Mr. Dosdale said that there was no point getting speed signs in the village until we had got our own house in order and stopped the off-road bikes and quad bikes.  He asked that the Council put a stop to this.


Mrs. Beadle has asked that the Council restore the notices on the river bank to stop vehicles going beyond a certain point.


Mr. Dosdale complained about the people canoeing outside his house during the flooding, and others taking photographs.  He found it very distasteful that people should be enjoying themselves while he was in such a dreadful predicament.


Mr. Dosdale said the attitude of the Council was disgusting.  He felt that during the flooding the Village Hall  should  have  been  manned,  and  hot  drinks  and  sandwiches  made  available. Cllr. Turnbull said that he had offered everyone who had been flooded the use of the Village Hall for as long as they wanted, but they had all declined, including Mr. Dosdale.


Mrs. Beadle said she was offended by a group of people outside Cllr. M. Turnbull's house who were laughing and joking.  She felt this was a very undignified way to behave in the circumstances.


There followed further accusations from Mr. Dosdale that the Council had done nothing to help him when his house was flooded.  In fact, he complained that no one had offered him any help at all.  This was disputed as people had seen Councillors at Mr. Dosdale's house with pumps, pumping out the flood water.


Mrs. Parsonage said that Councillors had been working from early morning until after  10.30pm., doing  all  they  could  to  help  everyone  who  was flooded.  Mr. Meadley donated sand and Cllr. J. F. Robinson donated bags, and all the Councillors made up sand bags and distributed them.  She also said it wasn't the responsibility of the Council, but as always they acted without thought for themselves, and worked hard trying to dig out dykes and help people.  They had all taken time off work to do this.


Cllr. S. Rollinson had phoned East Riding Council that morning to ask for sand bags and any help they could give us to ease flooded homes, but was told they couldn't help as the problem was too big.  Basically we were on our own.


Mr. Dosdale disputed all of this and repeated that he had received no help whatsoever from the Council.  His main accusations were aimed at Cllr. M. Turnbull and Cllr. J. F. Robinson.


At this point Cllr. M. Turnbull stopped the meeting because Mr. Dosdale's remarks were becoming personal instead of addressing the grievances he had about the Council.


The meeting closed at 9 p.m.


Date of next meeting:   7th August 2007